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John Toleman 1783 - 13 NOV 1846 son of Phyllis Symes and John Tolman born at Burstock, Broadwinsor, Dorset, England, wed 11 OCT 1814 to Effelett Cleal at Broadwinsor, Burstock, Dorset, England
son - William Toleman Christening: 18 JUL 1819 Hursey, Burstock, Dorset, England - NOT OUR WILLIAM!
From on Mon, 24 Mar 2008
Dear Elizabeth,
My name is Melinda Skinner nee Toleman and I was flicking around the Internet and came across your web page for Oborne. I just wanted to let you know that some of the information there regarding William Toleman is incorrect, as I have done a fair bit of research on my Toleman line.
William is in fact the son of John and Hannah Toleman nee Gill who were married 12 Aug 1818 in Bothenhampton but what threw me for a few years was William's baptism as I could not find it but a distant cousin in England (and a direct descendant of John Toleman & Efflet Cleal) went to Bridport/Bothenhampton and searched the parish records and found that he was christened as John but this name was crossed out. The date of William's birthdate is 27/12/1818. (This birthdate comes from our family bible) William married Maryann Norman on 13th Aug 1840 at Bothenhampton Parish Church and then sailed for Australia aboard the "Gilmore" arriving in January 1841. My ggrandfather Joseph was born in Australia in 1843.
William's father John was christened 8/12/1793 and is the son of John Toleman and Jane Hayward married 1789, this John is a 2nd cousin of the John who married Efflet Cleal.
If you would like any more information please contact me I have loads of Toleman certificates and pictures
Regards, Melinda

Marriages Sep 1840 -
Mary Ann Norman and William Tolman at Bridport Vol 8 page 51. The district Bridport is in the county of Dorset
William Toleman 1818 - 1878 #1240 aged 59 son of Hannah Gill and John Toleman came 1841 on the Gilmore with Mary Ann Norman, children were registered at Spring Creek, Belfast (now Port Fairy) then Mortlake, christened at Church of England, Port Fairy (He is not listed in The Victorian 1847 Directory) Exact dates from Leanne Grogan's Web page
11 children 1. Joseph Tollman christened 1843 #13364 at St James CofE, 21 Jun 1843-27 Mar 1897
2. William Toleman born 10 Jun 1845 christened 1849 #30112
3. George Toleman 1849 #30113, from Leanne, born 27 Mar 1847, died 29 Sep 1894
4. Elizabeth Toleman born 10 Oct 1848, christened 1849 #30114, died 1882
5. Hannah Toleman born 27 Dec 1850, christened 1853 #30317, died 24 Sep 1907
6. John Toleman 1853 #30318 christened at Belfast, died 27 Feb 1929, aged 75
7. Mary Anne Toleman born 5 Jun 1954 at Belfast (now Port Fairy) died 27 Feb 1933 #12126 aged 78, as Goldsmith
8. Alfred Toleman 23 Jul 1857 - 27 Mar 1858 #2127 lived 1 year
9. Caroline Toleman 21 Jun 1859 #14233
10. Richard Toleman 22 Feb 1862 #4157 - 3 Mar 1862 #2518 lived 11 days
11. Alexander Alfred Toleman 18 Aug 1863 #16290 - 2 Feb 1882 lived 8 years
1. Joseph Tollman 21 Jun 1843 #13364 - 27 Mar 1897 #1565 aged 54, christened at St James CofE and died at Garvoc, wed 1861 #2639 to Jane Viney Brown 1846 - 1872 #10039 aged 26 dau of Sarah Hankins and Thomas M Brown, and lived at Mortlake, Darl?, wed 19 Jan 1873 #547 to Margaret Delaney 9 Nov 1845 - 8 May 1932 aged 86, dau of Bridget Dunne and John Delaney (arrived Port Fairy 15 Jan 1855), and lived at Garvoc see Delaney's Corner
3 children
of Jane
1. Elizabeth Mary Toleman 1861 #14786
2. Alfred Toleman 1864 #4219 wed 1901 #325 to Ellen Jane Smith
3. Unnamed Male Toleman 1869 #23995 - 1869 #9908 lived 7 days
13 children
of Margaret
4. Bridget Toleman 5 Nov 1873 lived 1 day
5. John Delaney Toleman 14 Oct 1874 - 10 Nov 1955
6. William Toleman 2 Jul 1876 #16384 - 1941
7. Joseph Toleman 11 Sep 1877 #22430
8. Edmund Toleman 26 Oct 1878 #23091
9. Alexander Toleman 26 Feb 1880 #8983
10. Margaret Toleman 25 Feb 1882 #9477 - 1944 #20651 aged 63,
11. Bridget Toleman 3 Jan 1883 - 9 Jan 1962
12. Son stillborn 1884
13. Elizabeth Ellen Toleman 31 Jul 1885 #17880
14. Gertrude Catherine Toleman 13 Nov 1886 #26331
15. Thomas Patrick Toleman 4 Jan 1890 - Apr 1942
16. May Johanna Toleman 13 May 1891 - 26 Jul 1955
1. Elizabeth Mary Toleman 1861 #14786 wed 1883 #513 to Frank Brown 1855 #11229 son of Anne Elton and Wm Brown born at Darlington
5. John Delaney Toleman 14 Oct 1874 - 10 Nov 1955 wed 1908 to Margaret O'Connor 1977 - 1916 aged 42, wed 1926 to Lillian Maud Gallagher 1892-1978
6. William Toleman 2 Jul 1876 #16384 - 1941 wed 1905 to Mary Elizabeth Miller 1884-1949
10. Margaret Toleman 25 Feb 1882 #9477 - 1944 #20651 aged 63, wed Thomas Spillman 1879 #9750 - 1944 #20731 aged 65, son of Eliza Louisa Bawler and Samuel Wm Spillman, both died at Hamilton
6 children 1. Thomas Michael Spillman 1912 - 1960 #5400 aged 47
2. Magaret Elza Spillman
3. Samuel William Spillman
4. Joshua Spillman
5. Everlyn Spillman
6. Alexander Spillman
2. William Toleman 10 Jun 1845 - 7 Jun 1891 wed 23 May 1866 #1697 to Elizabeth Sarah McKenzie 1847 - 3 Aug 1926 (her death index has aged 29, dc has 79), dau of Janet McPherson and Kenneth McKenzie of Skye, Scotland and lived at Mortlake
13 children 1. Kenneth Toleman 1867 #9999
2. Unnamed Male Toleman 1868 #25205 - 1868 #9406 lived 1 day
3. Isabella Toleman 16 June 1870 #17907 wed 1893 #4656 to John Oborne (have bc)
4. William Toleman 21 May 1873 - 22 May 1873
5. William Toleman 25 June 1874 #5775 lived 1 day
6. William Toleman 20 April 1875 - 21 April 1875
7. Jessie Toleman 1876 #10957
8. William Toleman 1878 #6251 lived 3 days
9. John Albert Toleman 1879 #17950 wed Annie May Sutherland, 1883 #17743 - 1969 #25806 aged 87 dau of Ann Young and Alex
10. Alexander Alfred Toleman 1882 #10889 wed Matilda Clingan 1879 #17958 - 1961, dau of Sarah Rundle and James Bennett Clingan
11. William Ernest Toleman 1884 #11540 wed Jessie Clark 1890 - 1956 #15415 aged 65, dau of Mary Munroe and Charles Clark
12. Margaret Kathleen Toleman 1886 #28201 wed William Henry Flanders 1871 #18335 - 1946, son of Emma Louisa Long and John Gray Flanders
13. Edwin Toleman 1888 #31715 wed Susan Driver Parkinson 1892 #8809 - 1942 #4688 dau of Mary Mooney and Lewis John Parkinson
1. Kenneth Toleman 1867 #9999 wed 1890 #5983 to Unnamed Female/Annie Stewart 1870 #21989 - 1956 #18723 aged 86, 5th of 11 children registered in Vic by Catherine Rankin and Angus Stuart/Stewart
4 Children 1. Christina Stuart Toleman 1891 #5410
2. William Toleman born 13 Oct 1892 #24935 born at Dunlop St, Mortlake, son of Kenneth Toleman aged 25, and Annie Stuart aged 22, with sister Christina aged 1, and same birth attendants as cousin Kenneth, son of Jessie, born 4 Nov 1892.
3. Angus Toleman 1895 #5683
4. Sarah Toleman 1897 #21369 - 1901 #15807 lived 4 years, died at Warnambool
7. Jessie Toleman 1876 #10957 registered her first child at Mortlake, others in Melbourne
There is no record of Jessie Toleman ever going through a marriage ceremony before 1906, and only with babies 5 and 6 has the apparent father given any identity.
The Birth Cert of Baby 6, Ernest Lesley Cramp 11 May 1901, has the Informant recorded as his father William Cramp, aged 38, an Engineer born in Battersea, UK
From UK records -
William Abraham Cramp Births Jan-Mar 1863 Camberwell Vol 1d page 524
Wm Abraham Cramp 1864 - 17 Aug 1937 #7269 aged 73, son of Jane Barnard and Chas Cramp, born in UK, 58 years in Australia
Charles Cramp wed Apr-Jun 1861 to Jane Barnard in UK London District of Camberwell,
Jessie Toleman, spinster aged 30, then wed 23 April 1906 to Henry Skellett Williams, bachelor aged 26, son of Charlotte Skellett and David Owen Williams, born in South Aust.
6 Children 1. Kenneth Toleman 4 Nov 1892 #34936 born at Dunlop St, Mortlake, mother Jessie aged 16, registered 30 Nov 1892 by Annie Toleman, aunt, birth certified by Dr Sweetman and nurse Mrs Toleman (may be Jessie Toleman, is listed with 5th birth on this page).
Kenneth is listed next after William Toleman born 13 Oct 1892 also at Dunlop St, Mortlake, son of Kenneth Toleman aged 25, and Annie Stuart aged 22, with sister Christina aged 1, and same birth attendants.
2. Gladys Taleman 21 March 1894 #10029, Jessie aged 18, birth cert informant on 27 April 1894 is Humphre Wellinger, Womens Hospital, for whole page of 5 births with 3 single mothers listed, 2 families
3. William Frederick Toleman 26 Feb 1896 #6147 born at 7 Essex St, Prahran, Jessie aged 20, informant on 24 March 1896 (same address as 23 year old Annie Atchison when her baby Amelia was born 8 Feb and registered 21 March, both delivered by Mrs Jean.)
4. Ernest Toleman 10 Aug 1897 #19318 - 31 Dec 1897 #12744 lived 5 months, born at Footscray, no father listed, birth registered by mother 15 Sep 1897, living at 16 Ovens St, Footscray
5. Hilda Cramp Toleman 7 Sep 1899 - 17 July 1943 #8463 aged 43, birth at 176 Leicester St, Carlton, registered by JH Cramp 'Authorised Agent' on 9 Sep 1899, Jessie aged 25, has no father listed, she wed Frederick Thomas Guhl, 5 chn
6. Ernest Lesley Cramp 11 May 1901 #21027R born at Melbourne West son of Jessie Toleman aged 25, and William Cramp, birth cert informant is William Cramp aged 38, from Battersea, UK, on 16 Sep 1901
Ernest Leslie Cramp: Service Number - SX10622: Date of birth - 11 May 1901: Place of birth - Melbourne Vic: Place of enlistment - Wayville SA: Next of Kin - Lena Cramp
3. George Toleman 27 Mar 1847, christened 1849 #30113, died 29 Sep 1894 aged 47, wed 1866 #1251 to Isabella Brooks 1847 - 1867 #3011 aged 19 dau Jane Condal and Thomas Brooks,
George Toleman then wed 1871 #4153 to Mary Elizabeth Stewart 1855 - 1878 #8578 aged 23,
George Toleman then wed 3rd 1880 #4481 to Alice Hoare 1861 #21548 dau of Catherine Hanon and William Hoare born at Hamilton
Child of Isabella 1. Mary Ann Toleman 1867 #3822 born at Mortlake
4 children
of Mary
2. Alexander Toleman 1873 #11391 born at Mortlake
3. Catherine Toleman 1875 #26262 - 1875 #15319 lived 1 day
4. William George Toleman 1877 #2711 - 1877 #4856 lived 1 month
5. William George Toleman 1878 #16133 - 1878 #8297 lived 5 days
4 children
of Alice
6. Catherine Toleman 1881 #22622 born at Cora
7. Elina Victoria Toleman 1883 #8405
8. George Henry Toleman 1885 #19918
9. William Hanlon Toleman 1887 #10282
4. Elizabeth Toleman born 10 Oct 1848, christened 1849 #30114 - 1882 #8301 aged 33 years, wed 1869 #4165 to Michael Bolger from Kilkenny, lived at Mortlake, Donald
Possible family -
Catherine Bolger aged 48 came 10 Apr 1849 as Widow on Embarkation, on the General Palmer, RC, able to read, with six sons, Walter 26, Patrick 24, John 22, Thomas 20, James 17 and Michael 16, all Farm Labourers, born at Kilkenny, RC and both read and write.
Martin Bolger / Bolyn 20 (single man 10) Labourer RC both Londonderry, came 1 Oct 1841 on the Middlesex
Martin Bolger wed 1842 #167 Roman Catholic Melbourne & Geelong to Mary Kennedy who died 1862 aged 46.
Martin Bolger 1821 - 1867 #10372 aged 46, son of Catherine Bridgett and John Bolger of Kilkenny
Catherine Bolger nee Bridget 1794 - 1872 #8620 aged 78, dau of Ann and Martin Bridget of Kilkenny, died in Victoria
John Bolger 1889 #6740 aged 67 died at Chewton, son of unknown and John Bolger
7 children 1. Simon Bolger 1872 #10866 - 1873 #2050 lived 1 year
2. Michael Bolger 1873 #11389 - 1929 #3242 aged 55 died at St Arnaud
3. Patrick Bolger 1874 #22253 - 1876 #5156 lived 1 year
4. Mary Ann Bolger 1875 #22336 - 1954 #17926 aged 78, died at Ballarat
5. Andrew Bolger 1877 #21736 - 1951 #22650 aged 73 died at Ballarat
6. James Laurence Bolger 1880 - 1895 #12957 aged 15 died at Donald
7. Catherine Bolger 1881 #10808X1911
6. John Toleman 1853 #30318 christened at Belfast, died 27 Feb 1929 #20768, wed 1876 #1370 to Leah Sarah Brain 1858 - 1940 #19166 aged 83, dau of Jane Hacker and Isaac Brain, at Woolsthorpe, Vic, lived at Mortlake, Noorat
Isaac Brain born 18 June 1815 at Bitten, Glos, UK, died 8 Feb 1898 in Geelong, Vic, wed in Keynsham district, south Gloucester, Apr-Jun 1843 to Jane Hacker born 18 July 1825, died 11 Sep 1877 and they came 1853 to Geelong on the Confidence (can not 'prove' this ship detail, they registered Elizabeth Brain 1856 and Lucy 1860). AntiQbook has for sale $23, Wason, Janet (Compiled By). Isaac Brain and his Descendants 1815-2001. [Star Printing, Terang, 2001] Paperback, 4to, 222pp. Good condition. General light wear and marks. Corners a little creased. ISBN: 0957976801.
11 children 1. John William Toleman 1877 #10395
2. Elizabeth Jane Toleman 1878 #24408
3. Mabel Isabel Toleman 1881 #4364 - 1882 #6391 lived 18 months
4. Mary Ann Toleman 1882 #24592
5. Herbert Toleman 1885 #19875 - 1885 #9748 lived 2 months
6. Alice May Toleman 1887 #5251 - 1894 #3298 lived 7 years
7. Alexr James Toleman 1889 #33737 - 1890 #8892 lived 8 months
8. Alex Toleman 1891 #35821
9. Edith Toleman 1893 #15541
10. Mildred Toleman 1895 #31640
11. Leslie Geo Toleman 1900 #13311
7. Mary Anne Toleman born 5 Jun 1954 at Belfast (now Port Fairy) died 1933 #12126 aged 78, wed 1876 #4128 to Henry Goldsmith born at Gorey, Wexford, Ireland on 20 Mar 1848, who emigrated to Australia aboard the Canterbury Sailing Ship on 19 December 1867. He died on 1 Feb 1925 #196 aged 76, , son of Ann Wall and William Goldsmith, at Ballarat, Victoria.
Henry and part of the family (including Lavina, Frank & 4 children), moved to the Darling Downs area of Qld in 1909. Henry, Mary Anne and two of their daughters came back to Victoria in 1918. From Genforum web entry

on Tuesday, 16 November, 2010 pointed me to Mary Ann born 5 June 1854, with reference to her death record.
And gave the following family details on Sunday, 1 April, 2012
Leanne writes:-
For my website, I intend starting by adding information about William TOLEMAN (1818-1878) and Mary Ann NORMAN (1820-1889), their children and grandchildren only, however I have started to run into a few inconsistencies and variances in the information available to me and in an effort to get things right I am asking for help from fellow researchers of the TOLEMAN family history.
I was hoping that someone else within the family may have copies of the following certificates (or some other documentation that will assist):
· Birth/Baptismal certificate for Joseph TOLEMAN 1843. Currently there seem to be two different birthdates for Joseph: 21 June 1843 and 29 June 1843. I have previously assumed that 21 June is his birthdate and 29 June is the baptism date, however I would like to confirm this.
· Marriage certificate for William TOLEMAN & Sarah McKENZIE 1866. I have the Digger BDM indexes, but unfortunately they contain very basic information – particularly for Victorian marriages. From the Victorian Pioneer index it appears that Sarah has recorded her place of birth as “Edinburgh, Scotland”. Some researchers have referred to Sarah as “Marion” the daughter of Kenneth McKENZIE & Janet (Jessie) McPHERSON. This family emigrated to Australia in 1852/43.
I would like to see the marriage certificate as hopefully further details of Sarah’s background would be recorded, including her parent’s names and occupations.
I would also like to access any photographs that there may be of these first two generations of TOLEMANS born in Australia. I do have some documents and records which I am more than happy to share – please just ask.

10 children 1. Emily Goldsmith 7 Feb 1876 - 14 June 1927 #4118 aged 50 died at Ballarat
2. Mary Ann (Maryanne) Goldsmith 8 May 1878 #8463 - 5 Dec 1898 #18307 aged 21
3. Lavina Goldsmith 20 Feb 1880 #1681 at Corack, Victoria, died 30 May, 1950, Toowoomba, Qld,
4. Alicia Jane Goldsmith 1881 #22624 - 1967
5. Florence Matilda Goldsmith 1883 #1815 - 1974 #18277 aged 91
6. William Henry Goldsmith 1886 #9537 - 1959 #22827 aged 73
7. Annie Melinda Goldsmith 1889 #30524
8. Twin Lillian May Goldsmith 26 Apr 1894 #11262
9. Twin Oliver Matthew Jas Goldsmith 26 Apr 1894 #11263 died 14 Feb 1917 at the Fargo Military Hospital, Salisbury Plains, England.
10. Mary Evelyn Goldsmith 19 Dec 1897 #2785
2. Mary Ann (Maryanne) Goldsmith 8 May 1878 #8463 - 5 Dec 1898 aged 20, wed 17 Aug 1897 at Corack to Alexander Sands 18 Nov 1871-25 Jul 1954 son of Robert Sands and Janet Scott,
1 child 1. Gladys Ethel Sands 9 Jul 1898 #18212 - 23 Jul 1988, her mother died when she was 5 months old, she was raised by her Goldsmith grandparents, wed 1924 to John Hugh (Jack) Jones (1903-1949) son of Edmund Jones & Mary Ann Williams
3. Lavina Goldsmith 20 Feb 1880 #1681 at Corack, Victoria, died 30 May, 1950, Toowoomba, Qld, wed 17 Nov 1898 at Corack, Victoria to Francis Sands born 23 Oct 1873, Raglan, Victoria, died 12 August 1961, Toowoomba, Qld, brother of Alexander Sands. 10 chn
4. Alicia Jane Goldsmith 13 Oct 1881 #22624 - 14 Mar 1967, as Alecia wed 19 Feb 1903 to John McEwen 22 Jun 1878 - 10 Apr 1938 #14140 aged 59, son of Elizabeth Paterson and John McEwan of Donald, 7 chn
5. Florence Matilda Goldsmith 24 Jan 1883 #1815 - 19 Jul 1974, at Wycheproof, wed 23 Nov 1905 to David Nicholls (1879-1970) son of Edward Nicholls and Maryann Carlyon. (9 children).
6. William Henry Goldsmith 4 May 1886 #9537 - 7 Jun 1959 #22827 aged 73 born Corack, died at Donald, Victoria, wed 27 May 1908 at South Melbourne to Marian Goldsmith (1887-23 Jun 1972) daughter of William Goldsmith & Catherine Mckinnon. (4 children). **Bill & Marian were 2nd cousins once removed.
7. Annie Melinda Goldsmith 18 May 1889 #30524 - 3 Mar 1962 born at Donald, Victoria and died Toowoomba, Qld, wed 19 Aug 1910 at Toowoomba to Frederick John GRAY (28 Jun 1886-24 Aug 1963) son of Frederick John Gray Snr and Fanny Francis Quirk.
8. Twin Lillian May Goldsmith 26 Apr 1894 #11262 Donald, Victoria. Died 18 Aug 1988, Labrador, Qld. On 28 Mar 1925 at Ballarat, Victoria wed William Andrew Cockfield (17 Mar 1896-29 Jun 1969) son of Henry Cockfield & Susan Ellen Haswell. (5 children)
10. Mary/Ivy Evelyn Goldsmith born 19 Dec 1897 #2785, Donald, Victoria. Died 24 May 1972, Ballarat, Victoria. wed 28 Jan 1925 she wed William Andrew Caldwell (1902-23 May 1943) son of William Anderson Caldwell and Clara Jane Isabella Mcdonald. (3 children).
9. Caroline Toleman 21 Jun 1859 #14233 - 30 May 1937 aged 77, wed 1883 #2007 to Robert Rees born in Cardiff, Wales, lived at Garvoc, Terang?
2 children 1. Alexander Rees 1885 #10166
2. Elizabeth Rees 1887 #15517



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