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Rueben Thouliss

From Tony (email bounced) on Mon, 12 Jun 2006
Subject: Reuben's Offence
My Norwich friend has found the following for me:
Norfolk Chronicle and Norwich Gazette of Saturday 7 January, 1843, he was one of 17 prisoners before the Recorder, Isaac Jermy, at the City Sessions on Thursday 3 January:-
"Reuben Thouless, a lad of 15, was charged with stealing a market basket, containing 21 half-pints of butter, the property of Jeremiah Abel, of Ring Road. The case against the prisoner was clearly made out. The young urchin put several adroit questions to some of the witnesses, and apparently with great confidence. He was found guilty, and a former conviction proved against him. His history in crime, according to the gaoler`s books was, that he had twice before been tried, nine times in custody, and six times charged with felony. He was sentenced to seven years` transportation".
Sounds like our lad – if he was 15 in Jan 1843, he was born between 3 Jan 1827 and 2 Jan 1828 if my maths is right.
Tony
Our Reuben was the son of Benjamin (b 1796) and Susannah CHAPMAN. Benjamin's parents were another Benjamin (b abt 1775) and Mary EMMS (m 17 Jul 1796 : yes little Benny was a bit early...). In turn, the older Benjamin's parents were yet another Benjamin (b abt 1738) and Mary SAUNDERS. The oldest Benny's parents were James and Martha (THULES). I don't yet know where they came from or why they went to Norwich.
But the early families in Norwich were THULES, hinting at how the name may have been pronounced. One of them, James b 1775 was christened THULES in the register but used the name THOULESS as an adult. He had become a printer and was my g'g'g'father. The explanation for the change then that he was the first literate family member, his parents signing registers with "their mark". Most other Norwich families used the THOULESS spelling in C19th. Living THOULESSes pronounce the name "thou (ou as in cow) less".

Reuben's Judge Murdered

Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006
Hello Elizabeth,
My Norwich friend sent me an interesting item. It seems that Reuben fared better than the judge that sentenced him in Norwich. On 28 Nov 1848 both Mr Isaac Jermy (the sentencing judge) and his son were murdered at their home Stanfield Hall, Wymondham, shot by a neighbour, James Rush, who also wounded the son’s wife and her maid. Arrested at his house, Potash Farm, Rush was tried at Norfolk Assizes and sentenced to death.
Rush’s public execution on Castle Hill took place on 21 Apr 1849 “in the presence of an enormous gathering of spectators. Thousands of people entered the city by road…and many thousands were brought in by trains. Cheap return tickets were issued from London to Norwich”.
I suppose they go to the football nowadays for entertainment…

Research on 1 June 2006
Convict Reuben Thouless left 28 May 1843 from Sheerness arrived Hobart 23 Sep 1843 on the Asiatic, took 118 days, 188 convicts started and 186 landed in Tasmania, Captain George Barlow and Surgeon Andrew Sinclair (1794 - 1861) recorded here as a surgeon, naturalist and colonial secretary of New Zealand.
Rheuben Thouless Passenger on Oceanica left 29 January 1853 from Hobart Town to Melbourne, English labourer age 40 reference CUS36/1/402
Reuben Thouless died 1878 #9367R aged 50, born in Norwich and died in Victoria, parents not known
Research on 26 Sep 2005
The only Thouliss details in FreeBMD to 1880 are at Norwich in Norfolk
Death George Thouliss to June 1839. Birth Eleanor Sarah Thouliss to June 1845 and death John Chapman Thouliss to Sep 1852
The Eldorado came Nov 1852 with John Castley 29, Mrs Castley 33, Elizabeth Castley 2 and Isabella Castley infant
Research on 18 March 2003
I have just discovered why I could not find the marriage of Margaret Ellen Castley to Reuben in 1876. I now own the Diggers Victorian Index to 1888 and can do searches at home instead of going to the Library (20 kms away) for each look-up.
So I used Castley and there she is, getting married 1876 #4375 to Reuben Thonlis.
Rueben Thouliss 1855 - 1936 #18265 aged 81, son of Christina Connelly and Reuben Thouliss wed 1876 #2375 to Margaret Ellen Castley 1859 #21266 - 1896 #13972 aged 37, daughter of Elizabeth Norris and John Costley, lived at first at Wycheproof, later Lake Marmal.
10 children 1. Thomas Castley Thouless 1876 #24226 - 1953 #22009 aged 76
2. John Thouliss 1879 #12992 - 1962 #9869 aged 85
3. Reuben Thouliss 1882 #6318 - 1948 #2084 aged 67
4. Albert Edward Thouliss 1883 #13472
5. Annie Louisa Thouliss 1885 #14595
6. Elizabeth Jane Thouliss 1887 #16106
7. Ellen Margt Thouliss 1889 #22158 - 1908 #8639 aged 19
8. Benjamin Wm Thouliss 1891 #23476
9. George Henry Thouliss 1893 #32945
10. Henry James Thouliss 1896 #4680 - 1977 #28980 aged 81 died at Mildura
1. Thomas Castley Thouliss 1878 - 1953 #22009 aged 76, wed 1911 #709 to Alice (Marian) Myrian Blabey 1891 - 1975 #2214 aged 84, daughter of Mary Ann Willis and George Blabey, and lived at Wycheproof.
6 children 1. Stella Alice Margaret Thouliss 1911 #23139 - 1966 #20642 aged 55
2. Norman Thomas Thouliss 1912 #35902
3. Reuben Arthur Thouliss 1914 #17946 - 1965 #11735 aged 51
4. Jean May Thouliss 1916 #16787
5. John Cornelius Thouliss 1919 #23901
6. Albert Archie Thouliss 1923 - 1951 #23055 aged 28
2. Norman Thomas Thouliss 1912 #35902 wed Edith May Parker lived at Ballarat
2 children 1. Fredk Peter Thouliss died 1941 #16662
2. Marlene Thouliss 1944 - 1948 #17664 lived 4 years
2. John Thouliss 1879 #12992 - 1962 #9869 aged 85, wed 1906 #157 to Cath Maria (Katie) Donnelly 1873 #7167 - 1934 #18553 aged 57, only child registered by Margaret Rochford and John Donnelly, born at Ballarat and died at Kyneton
3 children 1. John Fran Thouliss 1908 #7676
2. Joseph Anthony Thouliss 1909 #13197
3. Cath Maria Thouliss 1913 #336
4. Albert Edward Thouliss 1883 #13472 wed 1911 #9986 to Flor Emily Powell, her family was in Melbourne 1843
Albert Edw Ryan 1883 - 1945 #17643 aged 62, died at Ararat, son of Margt Ellen Castley and Reuben Thouliss

From on Thursday, 27 February, 2014
Thankyou Elizabeth for the interesting information posted on my husband's family tree. My husband, Ronald Francis Ryan, is the son of Albert Francis Richard Thouliss who changed his surname from Thouliss to Ryan in the early 1920's or actually his father changed the name for reasons unknown to any of the present family.
Thanks again for your interesting info. Yours sincerely Joy Ryan [Bendigo. vic]
Another Albert Edward Ryan
Albt Edwd Ryan 1882 - 1953 #432 aged 71, died at Mont Park, son of Marion Adams and Albt Edwd Ryan. His birth was registered 1880 #11694 in Sandridge, and his parents first appeared in Vic records when this baby's birth was registered, he is followed by the birth of Marion Amelia Ryan 1882 #25681 and then of Gertrude Ryan 1888 #13401 who died aged 5 weeks.


1 child 1. Albert Francis Richard Thouliss 1912 #35734
5. Annie Louisa Thouliss 1885 #14595 wed 1905 #8709 to Fredk Jno Collins
Her first child Robt Jas Thouliss 1901 #4486 born at Lake Marmal, 4 children
6. Elizabeth Jane Thouliss 1887 #16106 wed 1904 #4364 to Sunda Singh
2 children 1. Henry Rahmchund Sunda Singh 1908 #7245R
2. Eileen Brice Singh 1918 #15278
8. Benjamin Wm Thouliss 1891 #23476 wed 1917 #2505 to Evelyn Rose Ladd 1898 #9668 - 1985 #03512 aged 87 and lived at Mildura
3 children 1. James Reuben Thouliss 1918 #21564
2. Doris May Thouliss 1920 #14782
3. Eric Clive Thouliss 1923 - 1966 #1134 aged 43
9. George Henry Thouliss 1893 #32945 wed 1919 #2798 to Eileen Maude Edmonds 1891 #36093 - 1968 #3868 aged 76, daughter of Lilian Ella (Lillian Ellen) Edmonds born at Portland and lived at Swan Hill
735 George Henry Thouliss embarkation from Melbourne, Victoria on board HMAT A29 Suevic on 21 June 1917 with the Machine Gun Company 2, Reinforcement 13 and returned to Australia 17 March 1919
1st children 1. Twin Patricia Raie Thouliss 1920 #16785
2. Twin Eileen Ruby Thouliss 1920 #16786


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