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From on Sun, 17 Feb 2008
Hi Elizabeth,
Lovely to hear from you. Well, it was -7 here last night and so your 35 degrees does sound hot to me!
All I have on the Milthorps so far is:
John Milthorp married Mary Bold on th 18th Nov 1729 at St Peters in Leeds.
Their son was:
John Milthorp born on the 15th Jan 1736 baptised on the 12th Feb. 1736 at St. Peters, Leeds. Married on the 1st Oct.1758 to Sarah Pickard (Daughter of Francis Pickard) at St. Peters, Leeds. Their children are:
1. John Milthorpe c.5 Jan 1767 Darrington.
2. Mary Milthorpe c.15 Oct.1769 Darrington
3. Thomas Milthorp c.13 June 1771 Darrington
4. Benjamin Milthorpe c.27 Sep.1773 Darrington.
3. Thomas Milthorp married Jane Skinn on the 26 Nov 1811 Darrington. Their children are:
1. Robert Milthorp born 15 Nov 1812.Darrington c.30 Nov.1812 Darrington. He married Mary sometime around 1838. on 41,51,61,81 C he is at Flockton. 81C his address is Haigh Lane, Flockton and he is a farm labourer widowed living with his sister Sophia as his domestic servant. Robert's children are
1. Andrew Thomas Milthorp born about 1840 married a lady called Grace.
2. David Francis Abbot Milthorp born about 1843 in Flockton.
2. Sophia Milthorp was born on the 27th Feb 1814 at Darrington. c.13.03.1814 Darrington. She married at the end of 1848 to Jonathan Wadsworth who was born at Ripponden but they lived in Huddersfield. She died in Dec quarter 1897 at Huddersfield.
3. Jane Milthorp c.24 Dec.1815 Darrington
4. Mary Milthorp c.30 March 1817. d.8 April 1817.
5. Thomas Milthorp c.23 March 1819 Darrington married Rachael Trueman on 11th June 1837 at Ackworth. He died 25th August 1886 at Andersons Creek, Victoria Australia.
6. Sarah Milthorp c.2 March 1822 Darrington
7. Eli Milthorp c.26 Dec 1823 Darrington
8. Frederick Milthorp c.6 July 1826 Darrington.
Just so you know where I fit into the picture...
2. Sophia's daughter Hannah Wadsworth married Law Airton Sykes and their daughter Lucy Mary Sykes married James Dransfield. Their daughter Emily Dransfield married John Beaumont and their daughter Gloria is my mum!
From a book found by Google - 26 Jul 1827 Jonathan Anderton, Swithin Anderton, Thomas Milthorp - appears to be saying they were refused more shares in Bradford Banking Co, which had started 1 Jun 1827. This note on Page 92 comes after the sentence 'Not every potential subscriber was allocated shares'.


5. Thomas Milthorpe, son of Thomas and Jane Milthorpe, was christened 23 March 1819 at Darrington, UK, and died 25 Aug 1886 #7942 at Anderson in Victoria, aged 71.
Rachel Truman, daughter of Thomas and Hannah Truman, was born about 1814 and died 2 Aug 1881 #7148 at Diamond Creek, Victoria, aged 69. The two were wed 11 June 1837 at Ackworth, Yorkshire and then migrated to Australia arrived 22 Aug 1844 on the Lord William Bentinck see Page 4 where Thomas Milthorp aged 26, from Yorkshire, Protestant, reads, came with Rachel aged 28, David aged 9, Jane aged 7, Thomas aged 5 and Anne 2 months.

From freepages by St. Cuthbert, Ackworth, Yorkshire
No. 108 (other Trueman marriages, Sarah No 125 in 1840, Knowles 131 in 1841)
Banns of Marriage between Thomas Milthorp in this Parish Farmer and Rachel Trueman of this Parish Spinster Were published on the Three Sundays underwritten;
That is to say,
Banns on Sunday the 21st May 1837, and on Sunday the 28th May 1837, and on Sunday the 4th June 1837, and married Sunday 11th June 1837

13 Children 1. David Milthorpe 1835 - 1910 wed Margaret Elizabeth Heffernan
2. Jane Milthorpe 1837 wed James Mann
3. Thomas Edward (Edwin) Milthorpe 1839 wed 1860 #2850 to Mary Anne Gapper
4. George Milthorp June quarter 1842 registered in district of Pontefract, died June 1842
5. Hannah Milthorp Dec quarter 1843 came as Anne Milthorpe 1844
7. Frederick Milthorpe 1846 #14617 - 1906 wed 1869 to Margaret McGeoch
8. Forrest Milthorpe 1848 #16000 - 1878 #400 aged 30, when his mother was called Rachel Freeman
9. Sophia Milthorpe 1850 #17014 - 1896 #11861 aged 48 died at Yarrawonga,
10. Eliza Rachel Milthorpe 1852 wed John B Peter E Maes
11. William Milthorpe 1854.
12. Charles Milthorpe 18 December 1855, Greensborough,Victoria wed 1893 to Ellen Elizabeth Stone.
13. Phledoth (Elfleda) Milthorpe 1858 #1260 wed 1881 #3980 to John Griffith Jones
1. David Milthorp 1835 - 1910 wed 1857 #2370 to Margaret Elizabeth Heffernan (Hefferon) 1835 - 12 Aug 1912 #13572 (NSW) dau of Margaret and Patrick, born in Fethard, Tipperary, Ireland and died at West Wyalong, NSW)
Margaret Heffernan aged 20 came Aug 1855 on the Maria Hay as an Assisted Immigrant
9 Children 1. Mary Jane Margaret Rachael Milthorpe 1858 #14549 - 25 Nov 1919 aged 61
2. Elizabeth Sophia Milthorpe 14 Jun 1860 - 1 Aug 1930, wed 1877 to John Thomas Hyland
3. Sarah Ann Theresa Milthorp 1862 #14999 - 14 Jul 1937 wed 6 Dec 1880 to Karl Fredeich Haeusler/Haenster in Wagga Wagga NSW
4. Caroline Agnes Milthorp c1864 birth not registered, wed 1882 #3703 to James Boswell at Dubbo, NSW
5. Twin David James Milthorp 1867 #11685
6. Twin Rosa Milthorp 1867 #11686 wed John Edward Quince
7. Septimus Harold Milthorpe 1870 - 29 Aug 1913
8. Florence Emily Milthorp 1872 #21600 - 1873 #4141 lived 9 months
9. Francis Alice Milthorpe 1876 #21082
1. Mary Jane Margaret Rachael Milthorp 1858 #14549 wed 1876 #2540 to Ernest Grellman in Forbes, NSW. Children were born at Lake Cargelligo and lived at West Wyalong

From on Wed, 27 Feb 2013
Dear Elizabeth
‘Mary Jane Margaret Rachael Milthorp 1858 #14549 wed 1876 #2540 to Ernest Grellman in Forbes, NSW’
Noticed your post – Ernest Grellman was my great grandfather – his son Ernest Henry Milthorpe Grellman was my grandfather and his daughter Laura Elva Joyce Grellman was my mother who married Joseph Henry Parkinson.
Have you traced anyone back past Thomas Milthorpe?
Regards, Kay (Parkinson) Meany
Ernest Moritz Fertinine GRELLMAN(N) 19 Feb 1849 - 18 Sep 1924 aged 75 (spelt Grellmann in Germany), born in Saxony, Germany and died at West Wyalong NSW Australia.
He and his father were blacksmiths in Saxony [Leipzig] Germany and used to shoe the horses for the German Army.
He and his brother became disillusioned with Germany during the Prussion wars and hid on a ship bound for Liverpool, England. Before the ship sailed German soldiers came aboard the ship looking for stowaways. During this exercise a bayonet was thrust into his leg whilst hiding under the sails. He managed to keep silent and was not discovered but this episode resulted in a limp for the remainder of his life.
From Liverpool he sailed to Australia as a ship's aid on the Borrowdale; his brother sailed to America.

9 Children 1. Ernest Herman (David) Grellman 8 May 1877 #13446 - 29 April 1878 #6446 aged 11 months, born at Euabalong and was buried at Wooyeo Station, registered at Hay
2. Moritary Edward Grellman 1879 - 25 Aug 1881, born at Wooyeo Station and died at Lake Cargelligo
3. Hannah (Johanna) Mary Grellman 4 April 1881 - 1934, wed 11 Aug 1909 to Albert Nielsen and died at West Wyalong
4. Bertha Margaretta Grellman 16 Oct 1883 #25597 - 30 June 1936 aged 53, wed 25 Sep 1907 to Niels Nielsen 1873 - 23 May 1929 aged 56 (brother of Albert) registered at Hillston
5. Ernest Henry Milthorpe Grellman 4 Feb 1886 - 24 Sep 1962 aged 76, wed 18 Feb 1914 to Florence Cooke (of Rye Park near Yass NSW)
6. Frederick W Grellman 1888 #29940 registered at Hillston
7. Menaie (Minnie) Elizabeth Grellman 13 July 1891 #16764, wed 29 Nov 1911 to Wesley Frederick Scott at West Wyalong
8. Albert Bernhardt David Grellman 12 Feb 1894 #16437, wed 20 Aug 1920 to Margaret McMillan at West Wyalong
9. Rupert Clyde Truman Grellman 17 Oct 1896, born at West Wyalong, wed 6 April 1927 to Phyllis Porter of Burcher and West Wyalong, a farmer's daughter.
2. Elizabeth Sophia Milthorp 14 Jun 1860 - 1 Aug 1930 wed 27 Mar 1877 to John Thomas Hyland, 5 Children
9. Francis Alice Milthorpe 17 September 1876 - 23 May 1969 aged 92, born in Benalla, Victoria, and died in Sydney, wed in Lake Cudgellico NSW, 16 December 1894 #7605 to Archibald Chamberlin, son of Robert Chamberlain and Catherine Gleeson. Robert was a blacksmith, and they moved about 1900 to Bega, 10 Children
2. Jane Milthorpe 1837 wed c1858 to James Mann and lived at Toowomanan, Greensborough
9 Children 1. Rachel Eliz Jane Mann 1859 #12678 (as Milthorp)
2. Charles Henry Mann 1863 #20671
3. James (David) Mann 1855 #4129 - 1897 #11428 aged 42 died at Benalla
4. Fredk George Mann 1858 - 1887 #432 aged 29 died at Beechworth
5. William Francis Mann 1865 #22379
6. Agnes Emily Mann 1867 #22097 lived 5 months
7. Albert Edward Mann 1872 #9310
8. Alfred Joseph Mann 1876 #9773
9. James Henry Mann 1879 - 1899 #12344 aged 20 died at Benalla
3. Thomas Edward (Edwin) Milthorpe 1839 wed 1860 #2850 to Mary Anne Gapper 1839 - 1867 #557 aged 28, had an unnamed son at Northcote 1855 (named when he died), lived at Rutherglen, and died at Barnawatha
Thomas Edwin born in Yorkshire, then wed 1868 #4481 to Elizabeth Kelly
5 Children
of Mary Ann
1. William Edward Milthorp 1855 #3902 - 1865 #8150 aged 9
2. Martha Jane Milthorp 1861 #17214
3. Emily Milthorp 1863 #11212
4. Alice Milthorpe 1865 #12108
5. Mary Anne Milthorp 1867 #12938 - 1968 #25228 aged 99, wed Dean
3 Children
of Elizabeth
6. Thomas Edwd Milthorpe 1876 lived 5 years
7. Charles Milthorp 1879 #21943
8. James Milthorp 1882 #8055
6. Anne (Hannah) Milthorpe 1844 wed c1872 to Henry Moffatt
2 Children 1. George Edwin Moffatt 1873 #22138 lived 16 months
2. Hannah Moffatt 1869 #14684 lived 8 months
7. Frederick Milthorpe was born 12 Nov 1845 at River Plenty, Victoria and died 25 Nov 1906. He wed 26 May 1869 at Wodonga, Victoria, to Margaret McGeoch 1852 - 21 July 1933, the daughter of Charlotte Atlee and James McGeoch, born in London and died at Narrandera, New South Wales, aged 81.
13 Children 1. Charles William Truman Milthorpe 1870 - 1926 wed Annie A Mann
2. Frederick James Milthorpe 1871 - 1952 wed 1906 to Mary J Conway
3. Albert Henry Milthorpe 1873 - 1943
4. George Thomas Milthorpe 1875
5. Maud Alice Milthorpe 1877 wed 1897 to Stirling E M Davis
6. Margaret May Milthorpe 1880 born at Albury, wed 1904 to Leo Ridge
7. Annie Sloan Milthorpe 1882 wed 1919 to Frederick F Watson
8. Eva Milthorpe 1884 - 1981 born at Albury, wed 1909 to Tom Beaumont
9. Sydney Gordon Milthorpe 1886 - 1976 wed 1914 to Annie Beaupeurt
10. Robert McGeoch Milthorpe 1888 - 1979 born at Urana, wed 1921 at Jerilderie to Eliza M Finch
11. David Bell Milthorpe 1890 - 1971 born at Hillston, wed 1921 to Charlotte CM Dunkley at Ashfield
12. Ernest Atlee Milthorpe 1892 - 1976 wed 1934 at Griffith to Violet L Balgowan
13. Charlotte Mary Milthorpe 1893 wed 1923 at Hay to James Cattanach
9. Sydney Gordon Milthorpe 19 July 1886 - 5 Feb 1976, wed c1914 to Annie Beaupeurt 21 Aug 1890 - 21 Aug 1978, third child of Harriet Jane Johnstone and Leon Beaupeurt, who died on her 88th birthday. Both are buried in Hillston Cemetery, Anglican Section A7.
9. Sophia Milthorpe 1850 #17014 wed 1866 #934 to George Godber from Nottinghamshire, 7 children

From on Wed, 12 Nov 2003
Dear Elizabeth
We emailed you while you where away enjoying the English and European Countryside and Have been following you wonderful tour ever since.
As we said previously we are related to Jean (John) Baptiste Pierre Emil MAES and Rachel Millthorpe. My mother was Beryl Jean Maes their granddaughter. Her father was William Robert John MAES, however we are not sure that he was actually their son, but he was Rachel's son, as he appears on her death certificate and not on his. One of those lovely mysteries of genealogy.
We have some more information on Jean (John) if you would like same but we understand if you have what you want.
Yours sincerely
Joan & Ian Heatley

10. Eliza Rachel Milthorpe 1852 wed 1875 #3672 to John Baptiste Peter E Maes (Mayes) from Belguim, and lived at Collingwood, Brunswick, Northcote
8 children 1. Emily Maes 1877 #2392
2. Bertha Maes 1880 #1554
3. Laura Maes 1882 #1715 - 1890 #6280 lived 8 years
4. John Edward Maes 1884 #8599
5. Edgar Mayes 1886 #17194R lived 7 months
6. Claud Albt Maes 1889 #10024
7. Ethel Maes 1892 #2695
8. Daisy Rachel Maes 1895 #14801
13. Elfleda Milthorpe 13 Feb 1858 - 1928 aged 70, wed 1881 #3980 to John Griffith Jones 1847 - 30 Jan 1896 aged 49, son of Jane Griffiths and Hugh Jones of Navan, North Wales, and lived at Andersons Creek, Victoria
Elfreda Jones wed 1898 #1540 to Edwin Holloway 1855 #4183 son of Mary Nye and Henry Holloway born at Jika Jika
9 children 1. William John Jones 2 Feb 1882 #48 - 17 Sep 1942 aged 60, wed 18 Sep 1915 to Daisy Celia Mildenhall at Bruthen, Vic
2. Thomas Truman Jones 1883, not registered, wed Marion Coleman
3. Lesley Albert Jones 1884 #14012
4. Rachel Jane Jones 1886 #15207 wed James Harding
5. Elfleda Jones 1888 #58 wed William Mair
6. May Sophia Jones 1889 #27775 wed Victor Thomas
7. Charles Edwin Jones 1892 #137
8. Winnfred Eliz Jones 1894 #17088 wed Patrick Gorman
9. Kate Jones 20 Feb 1896 #8177 wed John Voncent Coleman
3 children 10. Rose Holloway 1898 - 1964 wed Len Reid
11. Edward George Holloway 1899 - 19 Apr 1980 wed Elizabeth Hansford
12. Ellen Holloway 9 Jul 1901 - 1981 wed Arthur Chapman

Other Milthorpe data

Marriages NSW 2540/1876 Grellman Ernest to Milthorpe Mary J Forbes
5995/1887 Martin Lachlan to Milthorpe Emily Wagga Wagga
3539/1889 Slater Thomas H to Milthorpe Alice Albury
5611/1891 Milthorpe Charles W T to Mann Annie A Narrandera
4177/1894 Milthorpe James W to Fealy Eliza M Hillston
7605/1894 Chamberlin Archibald to Milthorpe Frances A Wyalong
3299/1897 Davis Stirling E M to Milthorpe Maud A Hillston
8527/1900 Milthorpe James D to Barton Mary A Condobolin lived at Narrandera
William L Milthorpe and Mary A at Urana NSW,
4 Children 1. Elfieda M Milthorpe 1887 wed 1911 to William Gain at Corowa
2. Mabel V Milthorpe 1889
3. Jane G Milthorpe 1892
4. John L Milthorpe 1894 at Cowowa

Martha Jane Milthorpe wed 1882 to William Henry Clark.

Thomas Frasier Milthorpe and Hannah Trueman registered Alice Maud Rachel 1865

William Lucas Milthorpe and Mary Ann Cord registered Charles 1884

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