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Joseph Derrick, William Derrick, John Deslandes, Frederick Dettmering,


Joseph Derrick

Arthur the Great came June 1856 with Assisted Immigrants Joseph 37, Harriet 35, Ellen 13, Albert 5 and Harriet 3
Joseph Derrick 1825 - 1870 aged 45 from Somerset came June 1856 on the Arthur the Great with Harriett Parson 1820 - 1867 #9604 aged 47 dau of Elizabeth Sheppard and Thomas Parsons of Bath
5 Children 1. Ellen Derrick 1843
2. Albert Derrick 1850 - 1877 #12094 aged 27 born in Bath
3. Harriet Derrick 1852
4. Henry Derrick 1858 #3539
5. George William Derrick 1860 #21235
2. Albert Joseph Derrick 1850 - 1877 #12094 aged 27 wed 1875 #4058 to Harriet McCourtie nee Williams
Harriet Williams wed 1864 #1436 to William McCourtie, whose death about 1872 is not recorded.
Harriet Derrick wed third to 1880 #3505 to John Meatheringham and lived at Yallock

See Ancestry page on David Meatheringham, father of John
David Meatheringham wed 1848-10-21 to Elizabeth Waite in Adelaide
David Meatheringham and Elizabeth WAITE, parents of John Meatheringham born 5 May 1850 at Nth Adelaide, Sarah Ann Meatheringham born 13 Jan 1852 at Adelaide. They went to Victoria, where William Meatheringham was registered 1854 #899
2 Children 1. James McCourtie 1865 #7588
2. Albert Joseph McCourtie and Williams 1871 #20860R (both surnames)
4 Children 3. Annie Susan Derrick 1873 #13854 - 1874 #2791 lived 10 months
4. Harriet Amelia Derrick 1875 #4769
5. Eliza Annie Derrick 1876 #18397
6. John Henry Derrick 1877 #24338
4 Children 7. William Meatheringham 1882 #20263
8. David Meatheringham 1884 #13856
9. Grace Meatheringham 1886 #14952
10. Mary Ann Meatheringham 1888 #7837
3. Harriet Derrick 1852 wed 1867 #4448 to Vincenza Lafranchi
4 Children 1. Amelia Lafranchi 1875 #23982 - 1876 #2299 lived 5 months
2. Vincent Lafranchi 1878 #22250
3. Joseph William Lafranchi 1881 #18737 - 1881 #8567 lived 1 month
4. Lavinia Lafranchi 1884 - 1888 #8604 lived 4 years
Henry Derrick 1858 #3539 wed 1880 #2580 to Ann Smart 1860 #15223 - 1884 #11029 aged 24, lived at Avoca,
Henry Derrick wed 1885 #4678 to Charlotte Young 1864 - 1886 #40 aged 22, dau of Bathia Hogg and John Young
Henry Derrick wed 1886 #5355 to Cath Foley born in Ballarat
3 Children 1. Fanny Derrick 1881 #18406
2. Cissy Derrick 1882 #20404
3. Rose Derrick 1883 #20958
Child of Cath 4. Albert George Derrick 1887 #16337

William Derrick

William Derrick wed 1861 #4074 to Hannah Seymour, lived at Lancefield
14 children 1. Sydney Thomas Derrick 1862 #21337 - 1946 #21195 aged 83
2. Martha Derrick 1864 #22525 - 1951 #17350 aged 86 wed 1882 #2489 to Alfred Wade
3. Rebecca Hanna Derrick 1867 #15878 - 1942 #27897 aged 75, wed Smith, birth record has mother called Hanna, not Hannah
4. Patience Elizabeth Derrick 1869 #16464
5. Emma Jane Seymour Derrick 1872 #9831
6. Lucy Ellen Derrick 1873 #24867 - 1952 #23521 aged 79
7. Alice Edith Derrick 1876 #10412 - 1966 #4357 aged 90
8. William Derrick 1877 #23331 - 1956 #7210 aged 65
9. Kate Derrick 1879 #3750 - 1953 #18203 aged 74, wed Chapple
10. Beryl Moffat Derrick 1880 #9862 - 1969 #6401 aged 89, wed Johnston
11. Ernest George Seymour Derrick 1881 #24491
12. Frederick John Derrick 1882 #24139
13. Bethel Bessie Derrick 1885 #11238
14. Robt Petheram Derrick 1889 #4919

From on Wednesday, 4 May, 2011
Hi Elizabeth
I was searching for more information about my grandfather's (Sidney Thomas Derrick) first wife Harriet Evans Hearle and their children when I discovered your web page and the list of William Derrick's children. I wondered if you knew that William and Hannah's third eldest child, Rebecca Hannah (born 4.7.1867 and died in 1942) is not included in the list. Great-grandfather and Hannah also raised his brother Samuel's daughter Mary after her mother's death, so they were quite a big family indeed!
I found it helpful to see confirmed the idea I had that Grandfather and Harriet's third child, Charles, died the day after he was born. Thank you for the information which I can now pass on to my cousin and her family.
Cheers, Mary Rebecca


1. Sidney Thomas Derrick 1862 #21337 - 1946 #21195 aged 83 wed 1888 #8022 to Harriet Evans Hearle 1866 - 1900 #9628 aged 34, from London, lived at Lancefield.
Sidney Thomas Derrick wed 1913 #8587 to Helen Hiscock
3 Children 1. Phyllis Louisa Derrick 1889 #23238
2. Wm Derrick 1891 #24636 - 1956 #7210 aged 65
3. Chas Derrick died 1893 #6557 lived 1 day
2. Martha Derrick 1864 #22525 wed 1882 #2489 to Alfred Wade of Kew and lived Gembrook
3 children 1. Daphne Florence Wade 1883 #17767
2. William Alfred Wade 1885 #11239
3. Lucy Wade 1887 #11511
5. Lucy Ellen Derrick 1873 #24867 wed 1897 #3267 to Corn Alice Sharpe Galbraith - appears to be Cornelius Alexander Galbraith 1876 #1745 son of Clementine Haley and Henry Louis Galbraith born at Fitzroy

John Deslandes

1841 Census Jersey Film 0464353 Piece H.O. 107 1461, St. Helier District 4, Folio 31 Page 9, Rosewell St. Y=born here. Ages rounded
Elias Deslandes 45 Lab Y, Ann 45 Y, Philip Deslandes 20 Shoe m K Y, John 20 Mason J Y, Nancy 15 Y, Elizabeth 5 Y
Folio 21 Page 39, Ann Street, Ann Place, Philip Deslandes 30 Lab Y, Eliza 20 Y
Kezia Martha Deslandes 1812 - 1881 #2452 aged 69, daughter of Ann Linghum and Wm Samuel Hatton died at Prahan.
Elizth Deslandes 40 came Nov 1856 on the Nugget - is she the Elizabeth Deslandes died 1856 #144M aged 40, died at 'Nug' which may mean the ship.
Elizabeth came with Walter Deslandez 9, Milvina Deslandez 6, Philip Deslandez 4 and Charles Deslandez 2. Thos Le Cocq Deslandes 35 came Aug 1864 on the Essex and died 1864 #8100 aged 33, born at 'Aldn' son of Ann Govine and John Deslandes
Jersey is given as the birthplace of Charles 1854 - 1870 #4838 aged 16, son of Eliza Sceney and Philip Deslandes, and the Philip Deslandes 1810 - 1882 #12482 aged 72, at Melbourne may be the father of Charles.
Malvena Deslandes aged 19, dau of Eliza Ceny and Philip Deslanders of Jersey, wed 29 Feb 1868 #209 at C of E Trinity Church, Sandridge to George Gay Ashton aged 25, son of Elizabeth and James Ashton born in Massachusetta, USA James Ashton wed 20 Mar 1832 at Saint Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England to Eliza Padley.
Walter Deslandes wed 1871 #4578 to Annie Jane Andrews from Ireland who died aged 22, 1874 #11384, followed by the death of her son William Arthur 1875 when aged 10 months, leaving son Walter born 1872
Charles William Deslandes wed 1875 #2313 to Ellen Christina Baker
Walter Deslandes wed 1883 #1471 to Florinda Rowell no known chn, possibly dau of Florinda Dove (died 1886 aged 40) and George Rowell who were in Carlton from 1862
John Deslandes wed 1852 #46A at Melbourne Methodist/Wesleyan church, to Jane Bing/Byng and lived at Richmond, Sandhurst then at Inglewood
8 children 1. John William Deslandes 1853 #18059 wed 1883 #2781 to Catherine Munro
2. Charles Deslandes 1855 #3012
3. George Deslandes 1857 #17032
4. Thomas Elias Deslandes 1862 #8780
5. Joshua Huet Deslandes 1864 #22395 - 1881 #1722 aged 16 years
6. Susan Deslandes 1867 #8702 lived 14 months
7. Emily Edith Deslandes 1869 #9219
8. Herbert Trinity Deslandes 1871 #16866 lived 5 months
Also on the Evening Star was Kezia Deslandes 20, Kezia Martha Deslandes 18, Elizth Ann Deslandes 11,
Charles Deslandes 25 and Olivia Mary Simpson 23 came Jan 1855 on the Evening Star with Chas William Deslandes aged I, and lived at Collingwood
8 children 1. Chas William Deslandes c1853 born in Jersey wed 1875 #2313 to Ellen Christina Baker
2. George Edwin Deslandes 1855 #2787
3. Olivia Kezia Deslandes 1857 #13244 wed 1877 #2242 to James Darroch
4. Ann Catherine Deslandes 1860 #230 wed 1879 #4786 to William Berry
5. Theodore James Deslandes 1862 #17129 wed c1884 to Esther Amelia Sedden
6. Emily Deslandes 1865 #1798 wed 1884 #6756 to John William Cameron
7. Ada Alice Deslandes 1868 #8306 wed 1885 #3420 to Charles Cameron
8. Arthur Ernest Deslandes 1872 #1690 who changed his name to Alfred Ernest Deslandes 1872 #25663X1900
1. Chas William Deslandes c1853 born in Jersey wed 1875 #2313 to Ellen (Helen) Christina Baker
3 children 1. Ada Elizabeth Deslandes 1875 #17542
2. William Charles Deslandes 1879 #21612 - 1883 #10678 lived 4 years
3. Arthur William Deslandes 1884 #15169
2. George Edwin Deslandes/Deslands wed 1875 #4869 to Sarah Louis Smith lived around Richmond
7 children 1. George Edwin Charles Deslandes 1876 #15168 lived 7 months
2. Emily Louisa Deslandes 1879 #2715 wed Alfred Henry Allen 1879 #11426
3. Alfred George Deslandes 1881 #11752
4. Albert Charles Deslandes 1885 #18648
6. George Gordon Deslandes 1893 #34828 - 1894 #10932 lived 8 months
7. Chas Edwin Deslandes 1898 #28816
3. Olivia Kezia Deslandes 1857 #13244 wed 1877 #2242 to James Darroch and lived at Whroo, 5 children
Olivia Keziah Darroch nee Deslandes, 1857 #13244 - 1933 #6480 aged 76, wed 1896 #5359R to Nicholas Frank 1870 #20198 - 1953 #1071 aged 82, 2 more children
4. Ann Catherine Deslandes 1860 #230 wed 1879 #4786 to William Berry born in Cambridge
4 children 1. William Charles Berry 1881 #26886
2. Emily Berry 1884 #6375
3. George Berry 1887 #24872
4. Alfred Deslandes Berry 1889 #27307
5. Theodore James Deslandes 1862 #17129 wed 1883 #1531 to Esther Amelia Seddon 1864 #1679 born at Collingwood, Ivy born at Northcote
7 children 1. Theodore Charles Deslandes 1885 #8982
2. Harold George Deslandes 1887 #22910
3. Stella Violet Deslandes 1889 #2340
4. Leslie Gordon Deslandes 1890 #27031
5. Victor Clifford Deslandes 1893 #2658
6. Olivia Isobel Deslandes 1894 #28288
7. Ivy Amelia Deslandes 1901 #13354
6. Emily Deslandes 1865 #1798 wed 1884 #6756 to John William Cameron 1863 #4402 born at Whroo, 6 children
7. Ada Alice Deslandes 1868 #8306 wed 1885 #3420 to Charles Cameron 1865 #1277 born at Whroo, 2 children
Elizth Ann Deslandes 11 so born 1844 came 1855 on the Evening Star and appears to be Elizabeth Deslandes wed 1864 #1333 to Thomas Ereout, and they then moved out of the records.

Frederick Wilhelm Detering

Frederick Wilhelm Detering wed 1856 #3699 to Anne Ampfry later called Humpfries, and moved about 1859 from Ballarat to Smythesdal
8 children 1. Anne Dorothe Detering 1858 #1919 - 1925 #13804 aged 62, wed Elliott, born at Ballarat
2. William Frederick Detering 1860 #8088 - 1861 #1644 lived 13 months
3. William Frederick Detering 1861 #20546 - 1861 #9180 lived 3 days
4. Eveline Detering 1864 #24936 - 1871 #7371 lived 6 years
5. Ernest Frederick Wm Detering 1867 #4841
6. John Frederick William Detering 1869 #18779 - 1938 #3883 aged 68
7. Wm Geo Fredk Detering 1873 #20198 - 1878 #133 lived 4 years
8. Loveina Eveline Detering 1876 #12865 - 1939 #15271 aged 64
6. John Frederick William Detering 1869 #18779 - 1938 #3883 aged 68, wed 1894 #2809 to Jessie White 1870 - 1962" #8005 aged 92, dau of Janet Mcglashen and Henry White, and lived at Mansfield
2 children 1. Janet Detering 1895 #14004
2. Fredk Hy Detering 1896 #21512 - 1970 #11197 aged 74, wed Walsh
Loveina Eveline Dittering 1876 #12865 - 1939 #15271 aged 64, dau of Annie Humphries and John Detering, wed 1893 #1888 to George Tinworth then Height
George Robert Tinworth died 1895 #13790 aged 27, son of Carol Talbot and Robert Tinworth
2 children 1. Annie Lovena Tinworth 1894 #13298 - 1976 #11066 aged 83, wed Mcphillips
2. Ernt Fred Tinworth 1895 #13611 - 1895 #6058 lived 1 month

Frederick Dettmering

The IGI has a submission from Harold C. VERHAAREN 4563 Brockbank Drive Salt Lake City, Utah 84124 Compact Disc #37,
Friedrich Dettmering and Ilse Catharina Pages are parents of Johann Heinrich Ludwig Dettmering born 15 Jul 1771 at Mandelslohe, Hnnvr, Prss died 30 Jan 1829, wed 10 Oct 1819 Place: Mandelslohe, Hannvr, Pruss to Catharine Maria Luise Wiebe
Son Johann Heinrich Friedrich Dettmering 14 Sep 1820 Place: Brase, Hnnvr, Prss died 14 Sep 1854

John Frederick Dettmering from Hanover, wed 1870 #2232 to Ester/Esther Trainer 1843 - 1901 #1833 aged 58, daughter of Alice Murphy and Andrew Trainer from Liverpool, and lived at Sandhurst
4 children 1. John Frederick Dettmering 1871 #11913 - 1872 #2643 lived 8 months
2. Mary Alice Dettmering 1873 #19771
3. Heinrig Adolf Dettmering 1875 #18982
4. Esther Frederica Dettmering 1878 #5163 - 1879 #2901 lived 1 year
2. Mary Alice Dettmering 1873 #19771 - 1956 #18630 aged 82, wed 1900 #6718 to William Henry Lugg 1868 #11152 and lived at Geelong, 2 children. Second wed Bradshaw
3. Henry Adolphous Dettmering 1941 #18809 aged 66, wed 1904 to Henrietta Isabel Williams 1887 daughter of Amelia Henrietta Begelhole and John Williams
3 children 1. Frederick John Thomas Detmerring 1905 infant death
2. Cath Esther Charlotte Detmerring 1906 #11875 - 1906 #5990 lived one month
3. Unnamed female 1908 #6532 - 1908 #12729 lived 1 day
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